it cannot be used as a tool of our foreign policy. it's barbaric. someplace, somehow, people must come to that point and say, "i ain't gonna stay the war no more." amy goodman: have you talked to president obama about this? rep. john lewis: i have not had an opportunity. but i've spoken out on the floor of the house against the war in afghanistan, as i did against the war in iraq. amy goodman: you voted in-three days after september 11, 2001, to give president bush the authority to retaliate in a vote that was 420 to 1. you have described it was one of your toughest votes. talk about how you decided to do that. rep. john lewis: i was very disturbed about what happened on 9/11. and when i look back on it, if i had to do it all over again, i would have voted with barbara lee. it was raw courage on her part. so, because of that, i don't vote for funding for war. i vote against preparation for the military. i will never again go down that road. amy goodman: and what do you say to those who say, "then you're not supporting the military. you're not suppor